@lauraf aw I was supposed to get overs but on the day he changed his mind and said he wanted to do partials as I didn’t have enough tissue at the top. Glad he did now though as there isn’t rippling and they look quite natura at the top but are still quite round. Yeah he told me to work down from 450cc but I didn’t want them any smaller than that. Think he wanted me to go smaller but when I tried them I just decided to go for them x