Anyone else a bit annoyed over the reaction to some about the NHS having to…. Started by: Anonymous

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  • Anonymous
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    …fix the pip implant problem thing? I didn’t have the implants but some people’s views on it being outrageous and stuff is a bit over the top? Like they’re saying how much a waste of tax payers money it is etc. but the poor women paid a lot of money for it and ended up with a dangerous thing in their bodies. If we were to make a list of the things which the nhs shouldn’t have to pay for because people did it at their own risk the list would be endless such as drinking, smoking, taking drugs, being overweight, going on holiday somewhere tropical then not taking your anti malarials or other preventative drugs properly, having intercourse and catching something, getting in a car you could possibly be in an accident, owning a dog etc. everything has risks. If people are so annoyed maybe we should switch to the good old USAs method where everyone who can afford it has health insurance, maybe the complaining about everything would stop then, except people would probably just find some other stuff to moan about like not being able to afford health insurance! The way I see it no one can win….I don’t agree nor disagree with the complaints about it all but they cannot make exceptions for some and not for others. The implants have been found to be dangerous so I think it would be inhumane to make people deal with it on their own.

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    I think people are more annoyed that the actual clinics that have but these implants in are not going to do it. Why should the nhs (tax payers) pay for private clinic mistakes.

    I do agree though that it is right the nhs are stepping in and personally done mind at all. But I think that’s wot the issue is, not with he innocent women but with the clinics that used these implants in the first place x

    Anonymous
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    Might just be worried that a year down the line they could find something sinister about my allergan ones and I get grief off a few people if the nhs decides to foot the bill to fix mine? Think I’m just worried now lol

    Anonymous
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    I know what you mean but I’ve seen soooo much comments on the Internet of angst and hatred toward ‘selfish’ women who had it done in the first place and expect the nhs to pay for it all, it’s angering me a bit when actually it is the company who made thems fault

    ayshababy 5
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    Yep I saw a status a girl put about how she’s “discusted that she the tax payer will have to pay to fix all the f’d up tit jobs” don’t think she’d be sayin that if it happened to her or someone close 2 her!! The clinics should defo pay tho that’s bad :/ x

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    Governments shouldnt have approved these for distribution in the first place, also how much money in tax do the government make out of it? Probably millions or even billions! yes the clinics and pip company SHOULD be the ones who fix the problem but many refused and pip has apparently shut down a while back, plus I had my surgery a year ago and knew the pip implants were bad then so why has it only JUST came out in the media?

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    I have been absolutely outraged by the way the government are covering all this up. I have not yet heard anyone say bad things about the women who have had them yet and I don’t want to. I’m might be one of those women waiting to find out what implants I have and answers to all my pain. I work my bolloxs off with 2jobs so I pay a he’ll of alot of tax and i think its about time someone is stepping up to help all these women. It’s just a shame all these private ones won’t yet just shows how much they messed up xxx

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    Women have already forked out the money to have the implants in thge first place to make them feel better about themselves, then to find out that the people they gave their trust and money to have placed them in danger is the last thing they need or could have forseen. Its small minded people that spout on about the nhs, they treat smokers drinkers fat people drug addicts. We are tax payers u have paid enough tax to feel that the nhs should look after us we didn’t ask to have small boobs and feel the need to have them enlarged. Sorry rant over but themm poor women who have to go through all of this

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    Here it is

    nikkilouxx -2
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    what winds me up more who watched the firework display New year eve at london

    how much money did the goverment spend on that n then moan the country in debt !!!!!

    stop helping over countries out and help ur own tax paying people out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ggrrrrr

    nikkilouxx -2
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    what winds me up more who watched the firework display New year eve at london

    how much money did the goverment spend on that n then moan the country in debt !!!!!

    stop helping over countries out and help ur own tax paying people out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ggrrrrr

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    The NHS is an amazing system we have in the UK. There are certain things the NHS is used for which I do not agree with but I won’t go on about it. I could have used the NHS for my procedure, acted depressed etc but I didn’t as I do not think that it is fair on the tax payer.

    With these implants, I really do feel for the girls, but in MY opinion, they decided to have a big procedure which of course involves a of thought and research. Should these girls not have researched the implant that was going in to their body? I haven’t had implants but if I was going to, I know that I would want to know the full risks with this foreign item.

    It’s such a shame that some of the clinics will not help these ladies out but I’m pleased to see that MYA are helping.

    As for the tax payer… I’m not too sure that i’m happy to help foot the bill.

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    It’s different to them just researching, on the news it said the producer of the implants originally made safe ones, then to save his own costs and make more money he started using industrial silicone used in mattresses! He done this without telling anyone the dangers of this substance and it didnt get into the media because some surgeons found out about it a while back but were silenced (like mafia style). Then to top it all off they began rupturing. He is being hunted-down by authorities as we speak for a number of accounts including MANSLAUGHTER

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    He originally made safe ones to get the European distribution approval, then secretly switched the silicone after a while

    Anonymous
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    dangerous silicone**

    Anonymous
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    In repsonse to the above comment – at the time these ladies had the surgery PIPs implants were legal in the UK and they were only banned in April 2010, they were banned in the US in 2000 – so why did it take the UK 10 years to ban these????? Therefore no matter how much research they wud have done there wud no where stating do not have PIPS as they are still legally used in the UK.

    Whereas now they have been banned no one opting for a BA wud have these implants.

    Its like the CUI implants these are manufactured by Allergan but are not FDA approved. However the soft touch and rezponsives are FDA approved.

    So in theory if in 10 years time there is an issue with CUI’s and they get banned are the ladies who have had these to blame as they did not research their implants? I think not.

    The GOVT shud force the clinics who put these implants in to remove and replace at no cost to the patient. And may i also state the NHS have used PIP’s implants. There are also males that have had PIP’s implants amd also prosthetic testciles were made out of PIPS too.

    No one asked for these problems…. its has happended ….my friend has PIPs and her left one is now leaking she is the mother to four young children, do we throw her on the scrapheap amd as tax payers foot the bill to bring up her children?

    I dont really care who foots the bill as long as these women are looked after and do not suffer with ill health.

    vicky28
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    Fair enough..

    Anonymous
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    A very complex debate ….

    nikkilouxx -2
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    most of these girls and women are tax payers them selfs !!!!!!!!!!!

    that pay good tax for our goverment to spend it on other countries wealth and health sort out our own heatlh and debt issues here first !!

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    Damn rite we all pay our taxes xx

    I dont agree with half the shit the NHS spend their money on – but when it is someones life at risk then sort it xxx

    This is different to someone going abroad and getting a F***ed up boob job and expecting the NHS to cporrect it.

    nikkilouxx -2
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    defo agree,

    half of us women most of us women PAID For our ops at a expensive price have worked all our lifes pay our taxes and if clinics r not prepared to re op free of charge and we have not the money to re op do we just get kicked to the kerb because they cant afford to sort us out, as they too busy giving tax certficate to people who cant work wont work dont work free dentist free tablets free food free houses on our tax when we need help in return its refused !!!! NOT ON frustrates me no end

    xxx

    Anonymous
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    HERE HERE TOTALLY AGREE

    roch 1
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    I’m sure many of the women who have PIPs did extensive research at the time to find out the risks of having implants – none of them would have been able to predict what has happened. Like some of you have said above, PIPs were approved as if they were safe and even the NHS were using them. Therefore it isn’t those women’s fault.

    I ask you this. If someone got food poisoning from eating at a dodgy restaurant and then went to hospital for treatment, would you say the hospital should turn them away because they chose to eat at that restaurant? I’m sure you wouldn’t. The person probably wouldn’t have known they were likely to get food poisoning, but even if they did the hospital would have a duty of care towards them.

    Many people smoke/drink/eat excessively and end up with serious health problems as a result. Everyone is well aware of these risks but still some people choose to smoke/drink/eat in excess. This is a huge burden on the NHS but it still treats these people.

    I believe the women that have PIPs should NOT have to pay to have them removed. The company that made them is responsible, but as it no longer exists it cannot pay. But should the cosmetic surgery companies pay?…it’s a tough debate. PIPs were approved as safe, so you could argue these companies are not to blame either. But why don’t they have some sort of insurance to cover this sort of thing???

    Anonymous
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    Good roch exactly the point I was making about the food poisoning and smokers drinkers drug users overweight/obesity treatment etc.

    nikkilouxx -2
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    defo agree roch

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